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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s wrong with colors in Firefox?</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge,

Thanks for that. So I set it to 0 and it seems to be working.

Sucks that it&#039;s set to &quot;2&quot; or Enable color management for tagged graphics only. (Default)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge,</p>
<p>Thanks for that. So I set it to 0 and it seems to be working.</p>
<p>Sucks that it&#8217;s set to &#8220;2&#8243; or Enable color management for tagged graphics only. (Default)</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Bernal</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the config has changed lately, see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gfx.color_management.mode</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the config has changed lately, see <a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gfx.color_management.mode" rel="nofollow">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gfx.color_management.mode</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I changed my to true under gfx.color_management.display_profile and nothing happened. gfx.color_management.display_profile was the closest thing I had to gfx.color_management.enabled. I don&#039;t see that in FF version 3.5.7

This is very annoying and I didn&#039;t have this problem with FF version 3.5.5

Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I changed my to true under gfx.color_management.display_profile and nothing happened. gfx.color_management.display_profile was the closest thing I had to gfx.color_management.enabled. I don&#8217;t see that in FF version 3.5.7</p>
<p>This is very annoying and I didn&#8217;t have this problem with FF version 3.5.5</p>
<p>Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: nomnomicon.com &#187; Firefox makes food look plain by default</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomnomicon.com &#187; Firefox makes food look plain by default</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This was frustrating to me, in particular, as all of the colorful pictures of food I upload immediately look bland and colorless.  It turns out that Firefox 3 offers the ability to fix this, albeit in a somewhat hidden method. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This was frustrating to me, in particular, as all of the colorful pictures of food I upload immediately look bland and colorless.  It turns out that Firefox 3 offers the ability to fix this, albeit in a somewhat hidden method. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YOOOOOOOOOOONY</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>YOOOOOOOOOOONY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUE VASCA DE PAGINA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUE VASCA DE PAGINA</p>
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		<title>By: Florent V.</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Florent V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a web designer (actually, I&#039;m more of a front-end developer), I encountered the color consistency problem more than once. You say that Safari seems to get the colors right, which might be true or close to the truth in that particular case, but for webdesign color management is just a pain.

What you REALLY need for webdesign is matching colors from different sources, i.e. PNG or JPEGs and CSS colors. If your PNG file embarks gamma correction data (which most of the time is «guessed» by the authoring tool rather than reliable data!), or if it embarks color profile information, and the browser tries to act on that... then your colors might not match, even though you used, say, #BBBBBB in your CSS and in your PNG file. Doh.

In a perfect world, color management would be so reliable you wouldn&#039;t have to worry about it. But actually it&#039;s totally worthless for the Web and you&#039;re better off not using it because color consistency is WAY more important than color accuracy on most websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a web designer (actually, I&#8217;m more of a front-end developer), I encountered the color consistency problem more than once. You say that Safari seems to get the colors right, which might be true or close to the truth in that particular case, but for webdesign color management is just a pain.</p>
<p>What you REALLY need for webdesign is matching colors from different sources, i.e. PNG or JPEGs and CSS colors. If your PNG file embarks gamma correction data (which most of the time is «guessed» by the authoring tool rather than reliable data!), or if it embarks color profile information, and the browser tries to act on that&#8230; then your colors might not match, even though you used, say, #BBBBBB in your CSS and in your PNG file. Doh.</p>
<p>In a perfect world, color management would be so reliable you wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about it. But actually it&#8217;s totally worthless for the Web and you&#8217;re better off not using it because color consistency is WAY more important than color accuracy on most websites.</p>
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		<title>By: Meneer R</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Meneer R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using Firefox, so why is it that I do see the differences between the screenshots?

I&#039;m puzzled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using Firefox, so why is it that I do see the differences between the screenshots?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m puzzled.</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daoro above is correct: if you want to put images on the web, do _not_ use color management and do not embed any color profile. Color management depends on three criteria to work: It has to be activated (there goes 90% of your viewers); it has to be calibrated to the actual screen, room and lighting (there goes most of those remaining 10%) and the machine should not be moved into a different place than when it was calibrated (so no laptop users).

Basically, using color management for web images guarantees a precise rendering for a couple of percent of your users and guarantees a horrible experience of your images for all the rest (as you see above not even your own machine gets it completely right). Better to just skip color management and gamma and perhaps adjust the images a bit towards the cool end (people tend to like warm tone for their monitors). No, it will not look exactly like on your screen. But it won&#039;t be horribly far off either. Up to you which you prefer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daoro above is correct: if you want to put images on the web, do _not_ use color management and do not embed any color profile. Color management depends on three criteria to work: It has to be activated (there goes 90% of your viewers); it has to be calibrated to the actual screen, room and lighting (there goes most of those remaining 10%) and the machine should not be moved into a different place than when it was calibrated (so no laptop users).</p>
<p>Basically, using color management for web images guarantees a precise rendering for a couple of percent of your users and guarantees a horrible experience of your images for all the rest (as you see above not even your own machine gets it completely right). Better to just skip color management and gamma and perhaps adjust the images a bit towards the cool end (people tend to like warm tone for their monitors). No, it will not look exactly like on your screen. But it won&#8217;t be horribly far off either. Up to you which you prefer</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.jorgebernal.info/wtf/whats-wrong-with-colors-in-firefox/comment-page-1#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both differ. Safari makes the guitar neck rather yellow, Firefox less so, but stronger than the original.

Hmpfff. Maybe CMS is not so great. Aboslute colors may improve, but the relationship between colors will only get broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both differ. Safari makes the guitar neck rather yellow, Firefox less so, but stronger than the original.</p>
<p>Hmpfff. Maybe CMS is not so great. Aboslute colors may improve, but the relationship between colors will only get broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Bernal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No idea. Probably, it&#039;s still beta code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea. Probably, it&#8217;s still beta code.</p>
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